2005 Ic Ce problems, complaints & recalls
Most-reported problem areas: Structure:body (2) · Parking Brake:driveline:hydraulic:actuator (1) · Other:school Bus Stop Arm Assembly (1)
Safety recalls (3)
Equipment Adaptive/Mobility 2015-11-19 · campaign 15V772000 · 271 vehicles
Defect: Kingmor Supply, Inc. (Kingmor) is recalling certain model year 2005-2017 IC CE school buses manufactured September 1, 2005, to May 1, 2017, and modified to be equipped with certain model S2005, S2010, S5005, S5010, S5505, and S5510 wheelchair lifts built by the Ricon Corporation. The affected lifts are equipped with folding link arms that may have pivot holes that are too big, allowing the bearings to move out of position.
Risk: If the bearings move out of position, the stowed platform may have excessive movement resulting in failure of the platform mounting. This failure could cause the wheel chair lift platform to fall out of the vehicle when the doors are opened, increasing the risk of injury for the lift operator.
Fix: Kingmor will notify owners, and Ricon dealers will inspect the link arms for damage or for displaced bearings. The platform will be inspected for cracks. Any damaged parts will be replaced, free of charge. The recall began on December 18, 2015. Owners may contact Kingmor customer service at 1-800-782-4474, or Ricon Customer Service at 1-800-322-2884. Note: These buses and wheelchair lifts were subject to a similar recall in 2014. All vehicles that received that recall remedy are still affe
Vehicle Speed Control 2010-06-15 · campaign 10V267000 · 2,085 vehicles
Defect: NAVISTAR IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2003 THROUGH 2010 INTERNATIONAL TRUCKS AND IC COMMERCIAL BUSES MANUFACTURED FROM DECEMBER 4, 2001 THROUGH DECEMBER 14, 2009 EQUIPPED WITH INTERNATIONAL VT365 ENGINES HAVING ENGINE CALIBRATION PAN2PVR0, PAN2PVR1, OR PAN2PWR. THE ENGINE NORMALLY RESPONDS TO A FAILED OPEN ACCELERATOR POSITION SENSOR CIRCUIT FAULT BY RETURNING THE ENGINE TO LOW IDLE SPEED OF 800 RPM AND DISABLING THE DRIVER'S ABILITY TO INCREASE THE ENGINE SPEED. HOWEVER IF THE OPEN CIRCUIT
Risk: THIS INCREASE TO HIGH IDLE SPEED MAY OCCUR WITHOUT WARNING CAUSING A SUDDEN AND UNEXPECTED SHIFT IN VEHICLE POSITION POSSIBLY RESULTING IN PROPERTY DAMAGE, PERSONAL INJURY, OR DEATH.
Fix: NAVISTAR WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND DEALERS WILL REPAIR THE VEHICLES FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 1, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT NAVISTAR AT 1-800-448-7825.
Service Brakes, Hydraulic 2010-03-16 · campaign 10V103000 · 5,016 vehicles
Defect: NAVISTAR HAS NOTIFIED NHTSA ABOUT A DEFECT IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 AND 2011 IC CE, BE, AND FE SCHOOL BUSES MANUFACTURED FROM NOVEMBER 19, 2003 THROUGH FEBRUARY 9, 2010. THE PARKING BRAKE MAY RELEASE IF THE BRAKE SYSTEM ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT SOFTWARE MISINTERPRETS INPUT SIGNALS GENERATED FROM CYCLING THE IGNITION SWITCH MORE THAN ONCE AT A SPECIFIC FREQUENCY.
Risk: RELEASE OF THE PARKING BRAKE MAY CAUSE SUDDEN, UNEXPECTED SHIFT IN VEHICLE POSITION POSSIBLY RESULTING IN PROPERTY DAMAGE, PERSONAL DAMAGE, OR DEATH.
Fix: NAVISTAR WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND WILL REPAIR THE BUSES BY REPROGRAMMING THE VEHICLE'S BRAKE SYSTEM ECU FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 2, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT NAVISTAR AT 1-260-461-1890.
Service bulletins (3)
Technical service bulletins are repair instructions manufacturers send dealers for known issues. Unlike recalls, the fix is not automatically free — but naming the bulletin at the service desk can save diagnosis time and support goodwill repairs.
Suspension:front:springs:leaf Spring Assembly 2016-03-15 · IK-0500013 · Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions
ik0500013 - iros suspension auxiliary leaf spring rattle
Structure:body:door 2009-10-21 · IK-2200087 · Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions
international: bus entrance door adjustment procedures. the following procedures outline the entrance door bracket, control bar, actuator rod, electric door controller, and air door cylinder and valve adjustments. no model years listed. *pe
Visibility:windshield 2007-09-12 · IK-2200052 · Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions
international: the emergency exit window switch, on certain buses, had activated and sent a false warning alarm, due to various window/frame tolerances. models 2004-2005 ce,fe,re. *pe
What owners report
2014-04-01 · Structure:body · 114,475 mi“floor sills cracked at body tie downs, tie downs hold body to chassis frame. *tr…”
2014-04-01 · Structure:body · 143,349 mi“floor sills cracked at body tie downs, tie downs hold body on to chassis frame. *tr…”
2007-01-29 · Engine And Engine Cooling:engine:other Fuel Types:turbo/Supercharger · 4,450 mi“2005 international school bus ,4400 miles ,turbo failure, replaced turbo actuator, dealership said corrosion was the cause. *jb…”
2005-10-12 · Other:school Bus Stop Arm Assembly · 3,000 mi“1. when the outside temperature gets below 20 degrees 2. stop arm malfunction on bus means putting children in danger 3. buses will be put out of service. *jb…”
2005-08-02 · Parking Brake:driveline:hydraulic:actuator · 2,962 mi“12/21/04 emergency brake would not release. 12/30/04 bus towed to nutmeg international to be fixed 1/31/05 buss fixed/ replaced computer part in system returned to service 2/10/05 brake service light came on and then off/ called dattco inc. they told us to check fluids and look for fluid leaks. there were none light went off. 3/9/05 emergency …”
Excerpts of consumer complaints filed with NHTSA, lightly truncated. They are owner statements, not verified findings.